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posted by [personal profile] dglenn at 05:24am on 2012-07-13

Gloria Feldt (of Women's Media Center):

"[...] women's physical appearance and their sexuality is so often the first thing that you hear about, before you hear about what they believe about issues, or how they have voted on important legislation. [...] These kinds of sexist activities [...] often people don't even realize what they're doing.

"We heard about Hillary's ankles, her turquoise pantsuit, we heard about her hair, we heard about her cleavage, but how much did we hear about what she really thought about the issues? That's the thing. [...]"

Molly Paige (co-host on America's Radio News):

"That's true, you really never hear about Mitt Romney's ankles."

Audio at America's Radio News, no date on the page, but the filename suggests 2012-07-06.

I saw @SandraFluke's retweet of @FemMajority's tweet that pointed to a WMC post (with an even more abridged quote) that in turn linked to the audio clip.

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posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 06:02pm on 2012-07-13
I'm really glad we don't hear about Mitt Romney's ankles. I'd have preferred not to hear about Hillary Clinton's ankles as well.

Interesting thing to note -- Gloria Feldt refers to Hillary Clinton as "Hillary," but Molly Paige refers to Mitt Romney as "Mitt Romney." I smell internalised sexism...
 
posted by (anonymous) at 02:11am on 2012-07-14
Yup.
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posted by [personal profile] dglenn at 03:10am on 2012-07-14
Doh! I often catch that (I want to say "usually', but I wouldn't notice exactly how many times I miss it, would I?), and have been trying to pay attention to it since I first noticed in 2008 that most people referred to "Obama", "Kucinich", "McCain", "Hillary", etc. Here I was caught up in the explicit point and overlooked the women-by-first-name thing that I'd been trying to watch out for elsewhere. Hmph.
 
posted by (anonymous) at 03:10pm on 2012-07-15
Part of that may be that Sec. Clinton has a rather prominent husband, and referring to her as "Clinton" may be confusing to some extent.
But then, "Sec. Clinton" would clarify that easily...
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posted by [personal profile] dglenn at 06:19pm on 2012-07-15
That was the reason I thought of at first, but then when I paid more attention I noticed that the pattern continued even in contexts where there was no ambiguity (which, yeah, could've been habit/inertia, but was still less excusable), and started seeing the pattern elsewhere, which reinforced my idea that it is a pattern (but alas I don't think I took notes on exactly what I was noticing, unless I posted a blog comment about it at the time).

I remember hearing the Bush secretary of state referred to as "Condi" more often than "Rice" ... but on the other hand, I never hear Justice Ginsberg referred to as merely "Ruth".

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