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posted by [personal profile] dglenn at 05:25am on 2011-06-25

"As a Catholic, I was raised to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not here, however, as a senator who is just Catholic. I am also here with a background as an attorney, through which I look at things and I apply reason. [...] I cannot legally come up with an argument against same-sex marriage. Who am I to say that someone does not have the same rights that I have with my wife, who I love, or to have the 1300+ rights that I share with her? [...] I cannot deny a person, a human being, a taxpayer, a worker, the people of my district and across this state -- the state of New York -- and those people who make this state the great state that it is, the same rights that I have have with my wife." -- New York State Senator Mark J. Grisanti (R, 60th district), just before the vote in the state senate on same-sex marriage, 2011-06-24

Since I pulled that quote together from three different spots in the speech, here's the whole thing:

As you may know, prior to me coming here it's only been about six months, and the issue of same-sex marriage was never really a strong topic of discussion among family and friends; I simply opposed it in the Catholic sense of my upbringing. And I have stated that I have a problem with the term 'marriage'. But at the same time, I also said I have a problem with the rights that are involved that are being overlooked. I have never in the past four months researched an issue or met with so many people and groups on a single issue such as this. I have struggled with this immensely, I can tell you that. I have read numerous documents, independent studies, talked with a lot of people on both sides of this issue.

As a Catholic, I was raised to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not here, however, as a senator who is just Catholic. I am also here with a background as an attorney, through which I look at things and I apply reason. I know that with this decision many people who voted for me will question my integrity a short time ago. I tell you though, that I have studied this issue. For those that know me, they know that I have struggled with it. To those whose support I may lose, please know that in the past what I was telling you was what I believed at that time was the truth. But by doing the research and ultimately doing what I believe to be the right thing, to me shows integrity. I would not respect myself if I didn't do the research, have an open mind, and make a decision -- an informed decision -- based on the information before me. A man can be wiser today than yesterday, but there'll be no respect for that man if he has failed in his duty to do the work.

I cannot legally come up with an argument against same-sex marriage. Who am I to say that someone does not have the same rights that I have with my wife, who I love, or to have the 1300+ rights that I share with her?

But there's another important point here that this bill brings up, and that's its religious protection, because I am Catholic. Under this bill the religious aspects of belief are protected as well as for not-for-profits. There's no mandate that the Catholic church or any other religious organization perform ceremonies or rent halls, there cannot be a civil claim or an action against a church, it protects benevolent organizations such as the Knights of Columbus and many others. And as a lawyer I feel confident that the religious organizations and the others are protected.

We in this state have recognized same-sex couples who are married in other states and are now in New York. I have read studies about civil unions; it's shown that they do not work -- it causes chaos. I believe that this state needs to provide equal rights and protections to all of its residents.

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I struggled with the word 'marriage' as between a man and a woman -- that's how I was raised -- but I also struggle wth the rights that are lacking for same-sex couples, and I've stated this numerous times. I cannot deny that right or an opportunity to someone, nor stand in the way of allowing them to obtain the rights that I have. I'm not going to get into the philosophical arguments, 'cause I've heard them all, but for me the issue boils down to this: I've done the research, and I believe that a person can be wiser today than yesterday; I apologize to those who who feel offended, to those whom I have hurt with the votes that I had six months ago, but I believe that you can be wiser today than yesterday when you do the work.

I cannot deny a person, a human being, a taxpayer, a worker, the people of my district and across this state -- the state of New York -- and those people who make this state the great state that it is, the same rights that I have have with my wife. And I also can't ignore that one of the things that was put into this bill -- that there are protections in this bill for churches and religious organizations -- and I am proud of that because I am fearful that those protections may be lost -- if this bill fails, I believe that next time around, those religious protections won't be there.

I vote in the affirmative, mister President.

(Any typos or transcription errors are mine, because I couldn't find anybody else's transcript already done for me to copy and paste from, when I decided I had to put this in as today's QotD.)

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posted by [identity profile] starmalachite.livejournal.com at 10:49am on 2011-06-25
Wow. A Republican I could possibly vote for.
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posted by [personal profile] minoanmiss at 12:48pm on 2011-06-25
That is an astonishing speech. Wow.
 
posted by [personal profile] dptwisted at 02:14am on 2011-06-27
I have never seen an argument against homosexuality that doesn't boil down to "It's against my religion." Finally, someone on the other side understands that oppressing people on this principle puts them at risk. Can the Jewish lobby now make it a crime to eat pork? Do the Muslims insist that all women wear veils in public?

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